Koldo Garcia had two assistants to know and spy on the internal movements of the PSOE

Koldo Garcia, a former adviser to the Ministry of Transport, had two assistants to secretly spy on and record people around the PSOE and to learn about movements within the party.

In an audio that has been heard by various agencies, a man and a woman tell Garcia the details of the conversation that two people linked to the PSOE had in a restaurant for 55 minutes.

In that audio, the assistants only mention these two people by name, Javier and Guzmán, and after stressing that they couldn't hear what they were talking about because of the noise in the establishment, they tell Koldo Garcia the unshakeable parts of the talk between them.

Asked to be told any details that the former ministerial adviser remembers, the collaborators say they were criticizing "Santi and Maria," especially the latter, and in their words "everything was done wrong from the beginning in the Pamplonese society."

They also mention "a certain Patxi," with whom Javier, "with glasses," was going to speak soon, and someone named "Jorge," who looked like a grandfather and criticized his appearances. 

At one point in the recording, Koldo García asks them if the name of Eduardo Madina, Pedro Sánchez's opponent in the PSOE primary, came out at lunch and they say no.

In addition, he is told that Javier plans to go to the Federal Committee in Madrid and that Guzman had material to "knock them all down" and that he would mail it to "Susana," and Javier advises him to send it to him from his personal address. 

At one point there is talk of money, '400 or 40', but it cannot be further defined by the noise, and spies point to the difficulties they had in continuing the dialogue when Koldo García asks them whether that money was related to Andalusia, the Basque Country, Navarre or Aragon.

They also report that the diners talked several times about a "sister-in-law relationship" and different "curricula", but they didn't know who they were referring to. 

Disappointed that the collaborators couldn't give more details, Koldo Garcia told them not to worry "Santi will understand what it is."

In the audio, finally, you can hear the former counselor talking on the phone, telling another interlocutor a summary of what his assistants have told him, "It's all recorded, but it's not understood."